tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27612445.post2651617833660359849..comments2024-02-22T22:14:28.796-06:00Comments on The Wild Reed: Donning the Rainbow SashMichael J. Baylyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03087458490602152648noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27612445.post-3990260523555708202008-05-16T00:56:00.000-05:002008-05-16T00:56:00.000-05:00+Protesting in Church is anything but "peaceful". ...+<BR/><BR/>Protesting in Church is anything but "peaceful". Shame, shame, shame on you. You break the hearts of the Lord and your fellow Catholics by "protesting".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27612445.post-78739156096376161762008-05-11T08:54:00.000-05:002008-05-11T08:54:00.000-05:00Let's imagine for a moment that one has met the cr...Let's imagine for a moment that one has met the criteria for responsible dissent mentioned by McCormick, and that this criteria is valid.<BR/><BR/>Wouldn't the proper gesture of dissent be to refrain from receiving the Eucharist, the sacrament of unity?<BR/><BR/>And how does drawing attention to oneself and to a particular political movement serve to symbolize the gift of unity given by the Holy Spirit? It seems to symbolize rather the experience of Babel.CDEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01442791960391683444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27612445.post-38553389363196928862008-05-08T01:54:00.000-05:002008-05-08T01:54:00.000-05:00Hi Clayton,I don’t believe that those Catholics wh...Hi Clayton,<BR/><BR/>I don’t believe that those Catholics who engage in conscientious (or responsible) dissent have “broken communion with the faith.”<BR/><BR/>I’m sure you’re aware of the late Richard McCormick’s work around identifying the criteria for responsible dissent from a given Church teaching.<BR/><BR/>1. A sincere effort to understand the teaching.<BR/>2. Consideration of the reasons for the teaching and those against.<BR/>3. Serious examination of one’s conscience.<BR/>4. Holding respect for the general trustworthiness of the Church.<BR/><BR/>The Catholics I know who’ll be donning the Rainbow Sash this Sunday meet these criteria.<BR/><BR/>Now, I’m well aware that you have a tendency to dismiss us as disobedient children, but I think a more accurate description of those who’ll be wearing the Rainbow Sash can be found in the following quote by McCormick:<BR/><BR/><EM>If, after going through the process [i.e., the above criteria], one still doubts or rejects [the teaching in question], that person should not be labeled a disobedient Catholic but a conscientious dissenter.</EM><BR/><BR/>And then there’s Francis Sullivan’s observation in <EM>Magisterium: Teaching Authority in the Catholic Church</EM>:<BR/><BR/><EM>If, in a particular instance, Catholics have offered their religious submission of mind and will to the authority of the magisterium by making an honest and sustained effort to achieve internal assent to its teaching, and still find that doubts about its truths remain so strong in their minds that they cannot actually give their sincere intellectual assent to it, I do not see how one could judge such non-assent to involve any lack of obedience to the magisterium.</EM><BR/><BR/>And finally, I draw your attention to Leonard Swidler’s insightful article, <A HREF="http://arcc-catholic-rights.org/dissentlen.htm" REL="nofollow">Dissent: An Honored Part of the Church’s Vocation</A>.<BR/><BR/>Peace,<BR/><BR/>MichaelMichael J. Baylyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03087458490602152648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27612445.post-79663249051596497982008-05-07T11:26:00.000-05:002008-05-07T11:26:00.000-05:00In an interview published in the Catholic Spirit y...In an <A HREF="http://thecatholicspirit.com/main.asp?SectionID=36&SubSectionID=41&ArticleID=1937" REL="nofollow">interview published in the Catholic Spirit yesterday</A>, Archbishop Neinstedt has promised to continue the policy set by Archbishop Flynn:<BR/><BR/><B>Members of the Rainbow Sash [gay rights movement] are planning to make their annual visit to the Cathedral of St. Paul on Pentecost Sunday, May 11. How will you handle that this year?</B><BR/><BR/>The Cathedral staff is going to continue to insist upon the policy that Archbishop Flynn put in before - that if somebody is wearing a rainbow sash, they won't be permitted to receive holy Communion. It's the same thing as if somebody came walking into the Cathedral with a placard saying, "I'm in favor of abortion." You wouldn't give Communion to that person either. It's a public act of defiance against church teaching, and therefore we don't give Communion to people who have broken communion with the faith.<BR/><BR/>* * *<BR/><BR/>It seems to me a consistent position which expresses <A HREF="http://www.doxaweb.com/blog/2005/05/meaning-of-communion.htm" REL="nofollow">the meaning of communion</A>.<BR/><BR/>The Church believes that genital activity should be reserved to a man and woman within the context of marriage. Those who want to lobby for some other teaching are <EM>separating themselves</EM> from communion with the Church. No one is forcing anything upon the dissenters. Dissenters are make a free choice to reject the Church's teaching.CDEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01442791960391683444noreply@blogger.com