tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27612445.post5025109877866704295..comments2024-03-23T12:05:23.537-05:00Comments on The Wild Reed: Better Late Than NeverMichael J. Baylyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03087458490602152648noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27612445.post-17587818531274227452007-09-26T17:01:00.000-05:002007-09-26T17:01:00.000-05:00Michael:1. "In other words, for the vast majority...Michael:<BR/><BR/>1. "In other words, for the vast majority of LGBT people, these teachings don’t lead to that “fullness of life” talked about by our brother Jesus."<BR/><BR/>Is this "brother Jesus" you refer to the same one that most Catholics believe to be "My Lord and My God?"<BR/><BR/>2. "Gay people who accept who they are, view their sexuality as a sacred gift, and share this gift with another through a loving relationship, flourish as people."<BR/><BR/>Genesis 2:24: This is why a man leaves his father and mother and joins himself to his wife, and they become one body.<BR/><BR/>3. "Thus these teachings are inadequate as they fail to draw on people’s lived experience of God in their lives and relationships."<BR/><BR/>Does "lived experience of God" trump historical faith, tradition, reason and the teachings of the Church?" Does that change throughout life? Is my God the same as yours if we have different experiences?<BR/><BR/>4. "They also fail to draw from the findings of science – including the social sciences."<BR/><BR/>The "social sciences", something of which I am somewhat conversant, are the biggest fraud devised by man. "Social scientists" want so badly to be respected as real scientists that they have constructed this body of knowledge containing all kinds of algebraic formulae that purport to explain human behavior. The problem is that virtually none of the factors in those equations are mathematically quantifiable.<BR/><BR/>I recall when the U of MN's School of Public Affairs began to require differential calculus as a condition for admittance. I hope that is no longer the case.<BR/><BR/>And, the study of society is indeed a valid subject for higher education. But it is not a science.<BR/><BR/>4. "You ask: “How do you tell the good habits from the bad ones?”<BR/><BR/>Again, it’s all about what they lead to."<BR/><BR/>Does it matter what they lead to, or are all habits valuable. If so, where does it say that?<BR/><BR/><BR/>5. "Yet at the same time both gay and straight people can choose to live and love through their sexualities in life-giving, caring, and respectful ways."<BR/><BR/>Is it only possible to "live and love through their sexualities?" <BR/><BR/>Is it not possible that "lives and relationships of awareness, compassion, integrity, and wholeness", based on faith in Our Lord Jesus Christ as He taught us and through His Church that He gave us a more valid way to live? "They also lead to that individual and communal flourishing, that fullness of life, [you] spoke of earlier."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Thank you for posting this, Michael. I've had a difficult time understanding how you can still consider yourself to be a Catholic by believing and living as you do. <BR/><BR/>One wonders why you want to be a Catholic if you disagree with so much of its teachings.<BR/><BR/>I fear that some of you are out to destroy the Church.<BR/><BR/>Ray<BR/>Stella Borealis<BR/>MinneapolisAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08332138030182107580noreply@blogger.com