tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27612445.post7556350223048891423..comments2024-03-23T12:05:23.537-05:00Comments on The Wild Reed: Blaming the GaysMichael J. Baylyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03087458490602152648noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27612445.post-42363038779460278972010-04-06T19:17:54.159-05:002010-04-06T19:17:54.159-05:00Thanks for sharing these statistics, Mark.
The th...Thanks for sharing these statistics, Mark.<br /><br />The thing also to remember about sexual relationships between male clerics and women is that in many cases the women involved are taken advantage of when, in a vulnerable state, they come to "Father" for counseling and/or pastoral care. In other words, it's an abuse of power (and trust) on the part of the priest. <br /><br />I think it's fair to say that these types of abuse cases don't get the same level of attention as others. Why? Well, the inherent sexism of our church and (to a lesser degree) society no doubt plays a part. Plus in these types of cases the victims are adults and not children or youth, and therefore perhaps not considered to be as "innocent" and/or thought to be able to "get over it" more readily. <br /><br />Peace,<br /><br />MichaelMichael J. Baylyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03087458490602152648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27612445.post-31556266118953867402010-04-06T18:49:10.421-05:002010-04-06T18:49:10.421-05:00Bill Donahue said that most of the victims were po...Bill Donahue said that most of the victims were post-pubescent males but I checked out the John Jay study. Only 52.7% of the victims were teens (13-17 years old). Less than 1% of the victims were under 5 years of age but 46.5% were 5-12 years of age. So almost half of the cases involved pedophiles. And I think you mentioned that adult women are not included in this study and a significant number of priests have been or are involved with adult women. This is probably much larger than the number of priests involved with children or teens.Mareczkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13122584421854834046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27612445.post-13922767652624245122010-04-06T15:15:34.306-05:002010-04-06T15:15:34.306-05:00Hi, Mark!
Yes, Bill Donohue does look a bit like ...Hi, Mark!<br /><br />Yes, Bill Donohue does look a bit like Dick Cheney!<br /><br />Thanks, by the way, for your kind words re. my presence (I can't really say "appearance") on <em>Rick's List</em>. I'm still a little disappointed that I didn't refute Bill with some of the facts and insights that have come to light since then.<br /><br />For instance, check <a href="http://mediamatters.org/blog/201004020028" rel="nofollow">this article</a> out. In it, one of the John Jay Study researchers takes Donohue to task for the "unwarranted" claims he made based on her work.<br /><br />Peace,<br /><br />MichaelMichael J. Baylyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03087458490602152648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27612445.post-53320639245731196972010-04-06T13:09:51.859-05:002010-04-06T13:09:51.859-05:00Michael, I watched a clip of the show with Bill Do...Michael, I watched a clip of the show with Bill Donahue. It was great to hear your voice. You did well. It is strange. Is it me or does Bill Donahue have a slight resemblance to Dick Cheney?Mareczkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13122584421854834046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27612445.post-63606312898317576212010-04-05T15:50:48.965-05:002010-04-05T15:50:48.965-05:00Thanks, Michael. I read that article (and several...Thanks, Michael. I read that article (and several more). Father Doyle is the greatest.Mareczkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13122584421854834046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27612445.post-35444009701612924762010-04-05T12:56:46.236-05:002010-04-05T12:56:46.236-05:00Hi Mark,
I think people can be psycho-sexually ma...Hi Mark,<br /><br />I think people can be psycho-sexually mature and also celibate - that's if, of course, celibacy is freely chosen. That's not the case currently in Roman Catholicism where, as you know, it's mandatory.<br /><br />I know of many well-grounded and psycho-sexually healthy priests who are celibate. I believe Tom Doyle is one such priest. In a recent interview on Australian TV he talked about the issue of celibacy. Colleen Kochivar-Baker has posted the transcript of this interview <a href="http://enlightenedcatholicism-colkoch.blogspot.com/2010/04/father-tom-doyle-uncensored.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> on her blog, <em>Enlightened Catholicism</em>. It's well worth reading.<br /><br />Peace,<br /><br />MichaelMichael J. Baylyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03087458490602152648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27612445.post-44483185913048757552010-04-05T08:51:56.590-05:002010-04-05T08:51:56.590-05:00You talk about priests being in an underdeveloped ...You talk about priests being in an underdeveloped psycho-sexual state but how would one be in a highly developed psycho-sexual state and also be celibate? That would surely be a challenge. Speaking from personal experience (I am somewhat older than you) my own orientation is something that until a few years ago, I never even discussed with myself. It was just who I was in a biological sense. People like Bill Donahue challenge my thinking but I'm not buying what they are selling.Mareczkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13122584421854834046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27612445.post-83599136438253381262010-04-05T08:37:13.162-05:002010-04-05T08:37:13.162-05:00I enjoyed Sullivan's piece as well. It is a c...I enjoyed Sullivan's piece as well. It is a cogent and measured, as well as blunt, assessment. I especially liked the "what if the situation was reversed" argument. Those sorts of arguments give the greatest pause to the other side, or more importantly, to those who are just confused by it all.kevin57https://www.blogger.com/profile/01681985465980196347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27612445.post-9757462618118284932010-04-05T08:22:18.846-05:002010-04-05T08:22:18.846-05:00Wow, Michael, I am so proud of you. It must have ...Wow, Michael, I am so proud of you. It must have been interesting standing up to that windbag. That Bill Donahue is one scary dude in my opinion.Mareczkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13122584421854834046noreply@blogger.com